Comments on: That dirty little coward that shot Mr. Howard http://mendicantbug.com/2008/03/01/that-dirty-little-coward-that-shot-mr-howard/ Wanderings into computational linguistics, science, social media and life... Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:32:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Jason Adams http://mendicantbug.com/2008/03/01/that-dirty-little-coward-that-shot-mr-howard/#comment-731 Jason Adams Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:32:51 +0000 http://ealdent.wordpress.com/?p=543#comment-731 Cool, thanks :) Cool, thanks :)

]]> By: Judye Jones http://mendicantbug.com/2008/03/01/that-dirty-little-coward-that-shot-mr-howard/#comment-728 Judye Jones Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:14:25 +0000 http://ealdent.wordpress.com/?p=543#comment-728 Hi, I'm back. It is apretty good bet that Jesse Knew "Old Susanna" and maybe "Dixie". Music was slow traveling West - and Missouri was still West in the last middle of the 19th century. Tunes were simple and repetitive. Stephen Foster was popular during the latter part of the century and the beginning of the next but that was in the "Big Cities". "The Ballad of Jesse James" was more of a cawboy-folk song. I found a copy of the melody at http://sniff.numachi.com and it is pretty close to the way I learned the song from my daddy (1913-2004). The refrain is exactly the same. The words by Ross were new to me. They are probably more accurate about Jesse's life but they are too brutal to be remembered as the other is. I heard an instrumental version that is very good at http://oldkunnel.net/midiuscowboysdl.html. I wrote the music that I remembered but you may prefer these more official sources rather than my personal recolections. By the way, I do have a Masters degree in Music Education a several courses beyond so I'm not just talking pure nonsense. Judye Hi,

I’m back. It is apretty good bet that Jesse Knew “Old Susanna” and maybe “Dixie”. Music was slow traveling West - and Missouri was still West
in the last middle of the 19th century. Tunes were simple and repetitive.
Stephen Foster was popular during the latter part of the century and the
beginning of the next but that was in the “Big Cities”. “The Ballad of Jesse James” was more of a cawboy-folk song. I found a copy of the melody at
http://sniff.numachi.com and it is pretty close to the way I learned the song from my daddy (1913-2004). The refrain is exactly the same. The
words by Ross were new to me. They are probably more accurate about Jesse’s life but they are too brutal to be remembered as the other is.

I heard an instrumental version that is very good at http://oldkunnel.net/midiuscowboysdl.html.

I wrote the music that I remembered but you may prefer these more official sources rather than my personal recolections.

By the way, I do have a Masters degree in Music Education a several
courses beyond so I’m not just talking pure nonsense.

Judye

]]> By: Jason Adams http://mendicantbug.com/2008/03/01/that-dirty-little-coward-that-shot-mr-howard/#comment-709 Jason Adams Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:36:36 +0000 http://ealdent.wordpress.com/?p=543#comment-709 Thanks for the great info. Do you have a link to anything that represents the original melody (or a better example of one more appropriate to that time)? Thanks for the great info. Do you have a link to anything that represents the original melody (or a better example of one more appropriate to that time)?

]]> By: judye jones http://mendicantbug.com/2008/03/01/that-dirty-little-coward-that-shot-mr-howard/#comment-708 judye jones Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:48:15 +0000 http://ealdent.wordpress.com/?p=543#comment-708 I'm glad you were impressed with the song. However the melody (?) was neither the traditional one nor one appropriate to the period. The style was wrong too unless you consider it "drunk man" style. Jesse James was unique in many ways. I wonder what he might have become if the Civil War hadn't happened. A poor dirt farmer nobody ever heard of? A political leader? He was definitely intelligent, capable, charismatic. But did the war make him so bitter and hardened that he became a cold blooded killer (unlike Robin Hood)? Is it a shame he died so young or a blessing? Very interesting - with no clear answers. That's why we still think about him. Oh, I was impressed with the portrayal of Jesse's mental state near the end of the movie. He seemed to invite his murder. Maybe that's the answer. Maybe Jesse James was just "crazy"! War does that to people. I’m glad you were impressed with the song. However the melody (?)
was neither the traditional one nor one appropriate to the period. The
style was wrong too unless you consider it “drunk man” style.

Jesse James was unique in many ways. I wonder what he might have
become if the Civil War hadn’t happened. A poor dirt farmer nobody ever heard of? A political leader? He was definitely intelligent, capable,
charismatic. But did the war make him so bitter and hardened that
he became a cold blooded killer (unlike Robin Hood)? Is it a shame he died so young or a blessing? Very interesting - with no clear answers. That’s
why we still think about him.

Oh, I was impressed with the portrayal of Jesse’s mental state near the end of the movie. He seemed to invite his murder. Maybe that’s the answer. Maybe Jesse James was just “crazy”! War does that to people.

]]> By: patrick http://mendicantbug.com/2008/03/01/that-dirty-little-coward-that-shot-mr-howard/#comment-612 patrick Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:43:04 +0000 http://ealdent.wordpress.com/?p=543#comment-612 Beowulf's animation was all around impressive, though the characters' movement reminded me a lot of Shrek. Beowulf’s animation was all around impressive, though the characters’ movement reminded me a lot of Shrek.

]]> By: Eric http://mendicantbug.com/2008/03/01/that-dirty-little-coward-that-shot-mr-howard/#comment-606 Eric Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:32:00 +0000 http://ealdent.wordpress.com/?p=543#comment-606 The family of Jesse James have posted their own 5 page review of this movie on their family web site, together with stories about the James family’s former experiences with Hollywood and Jesse James movies. http://www.ericjames.org/Reviews/AssassinationofJesseJames/index.html The family of Jesse James have posted their own 5 page review of this movie on their family web site, together with stories about the James family’s former experiences with Hollywood and Jesse James movies.

http://www.ericjames.org/Reviews/AssassinationofJesseJames/index.html

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