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		<title>By: Can Stack Exchange save scientific peer review? &#171; Helping The Blind</title>
		<link>http://mendicantbug.com/2009/02/07/the-stackoverflow-of-academia/#comment-3434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can Stack Exchange save scientific peer review? &#171; Helping The Blind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] am not the first one to bring Stack Exchange on the table, but I found the other approach far less concrete.    LD_AddCustomAttr(&quot;AdOpt&quot;, &quot;1&quot;); LD_AddCustomAttr(&quot;Origin&quot;, &quot;other&quot;); [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] am not the first one to bring Stack Exchange on the table, but I found the other approach far less concrete.    LD_AddCustomAttr(&quot;AdOpt&quot;, &quot;1&quot;); LD_AddCustomAttr(&quot;Origin&quot;, &quot;other&quot;); [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Academic Productivity &#187; RWW on Elsevier&#8217;s Prototype: Is This The Scientific Article of the Future?</title>
		<link>http://mendicantbug.com/2009/02/07/the-stackoverflow-of-academia/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Academic Productivity &#187; RWW on Elsevier&#8217;s Prototype: Is This The Scientific Article of the Future?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] it to their huge audiences. Of course, it wasn’t long before someone (mendicantbug.com) proposed The Stack Overflow of Academia&#160; solution. This is by no means perfect: The benefits of peer review by the herd are great, but [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it to their huge audiences. Of course, it wasn’t long before someone (mendicantbug.com) proposed The Stack Overflow of Academia&#160; solution. This is by no means perfect: The benefits of peer review by the herd are great, but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Moser</title>
		<link>http://mendicantbug.com/2009/02/07/the-stackoverflow-of-academia/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Moser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason,

I had a similar thought a month ago as part of a larger initiative and ended up asking a question on Stack Overflow about it: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/553264/can-stack-overflow-help-you-explore-the-magic-and-beauty-of-computer-science

It got a mostly negative response (and was closed initially; I was able to get it re-opened). The most interesting response was from Jeff Atwood (creator of Stack Overflow) via Twitter regarding my question:

&quot;well said, but Stack Overflow is more of a sausage factory where we grind up meat and bones&quot; - http://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/1215401481

That said, I&#039;m not giving up hope and am trying to work with others to come up with something. It&#039;d be great to work together if you&#039;re interested in making something happen. 

Feel free to respond to my question on Stack Overflow. I really think something like what you&#039;re talking about is greatly needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>I had a similar thought a month ago as part of a larger initiative and ended up asking a question on Stack Overflow about it: <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/553264/can-stack-overflow-help-you-explore-the-magic-and-beauty-of-computer-science" rel="nofollow">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/553264/can-stack-overflow-help-you-explore-the-magic-and-beauty-of-computer-science</a></p>
<p>It got a mostly negative response (and was closed initially; I was able to get it re-opened). The most interesting response was from Jeff Atwood (creator of Stack Overflow) via Twitter regarding my question:</p>
<p>&#8220;well said, but Stack Overflow is more of a sausage factory where we grind up meat and bones&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/1215401481" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/1215401481</a></p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not giving up hope and am trying to work with others to come up with something. It&#8217;d be great to work together if you&#8217;re interested in making something happen. </p>
<p>Feel free to respond to my question on Stack Overflow. I really think something like what you&#8217;re talking about is greatly needed.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://mendicantbug.com/2009/02/07/the-stackoverflow-of-academia/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your idea, but I don&#039;t remember whether I&#039;ve blogged about it. I pointed out this article http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/?p=531 on peer review by Michael Nielsen on my my other blog http://reproducibleresearch.org/blog/. Maybe that&#039;s what you read.

I&#039;ve noticed, for example, that I get much better feedback on my CodeProject articles than I do on my academic articles. Sure, some people who comment on CodeProject don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about, but the same is true for academic journal reviewers. 

One down side of CodeProject and StackOverflow is that early voters are very influential: there&#039;s a strong tendency to echo the status quo. It might be better to not publish vote tallies until there have been a minimum number of votes. Still, there&#039;s a benefit to having many reviewers, even if they&#039;re not independent, rather than just one or two.

I completely agree with your comment that reviewers hardly ever try to implement an algorithm. The reproducible research blog has several stories about completely irreproducible papers that sailed through the review process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your idea, but I don&#8217;t remember whether I&#8217;ve blogged about it. I pointed out this article <a href="http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/?p=531" rel="nofollow">http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/?p=531</a> on peer review by Michael Nielsen on my my other blog <a href="http://reproducibleresearch.org/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://reproducibleresearch.org/blog/</a>. Maybe that&#8217;s what you read.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed, for example, that I get much better feedback on my CodeProject articles than I do on my academic articles. Sure, some people who comment on CodeProject don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about, but the same is true for academic journal reviewers. </p>
<p>One down side of CodeProject and StackOverflow is that early voters are very influential: there&#8217;s a strong tendency to echo the status quo. It might be better to not publish vote tallies until there have been a minimum number of votes. Still, there&#8217;s a benefit to having many reviewers, even if they&#8217;re not independent, rather than just one or two.</p>
<p>I completely agree with your comment that reviewers hardly ever try to implement an algorithm. The reproducible research blog has several stories about completely irreproducible papers that sailed through the review process.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Adams</title>
		<link>http://mendicantbug.com/2009/02/07/the-stackoverflow-of-academia/#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good stuff, thanks for the link.  It&#039;s encouraging to see there seems to be a growing body of people who agree the system should change.  I guess maybe this is a case where there is a silent majority against it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, thanks for the link.  It&#8217;s encouraging to see there seems to be a growing body of people who agree the system should change.  I guess maybe this is a case where there is a silent majority against it?</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Richter</title>
		<link>http://mendicantbug.com/2009/02/07/the-stackoverflow-of-academia/#comment-1234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neal Richter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you seen the &quot;Is massively collaborative mathematics possible?&quot; blog post by Tim Gowers from Cambridge?  Lots of similar flavor to what you as discussing above.
http://gowers.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/is-massively-collaborative-mathematics-possible/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the &#8220;Is massively collaborative mathematics possible?&#8221; blog post by Tim Gowers from Cambridge?  Lots of similar flavor to what you as discussing above.<br />
<a href="http://gowers.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/is-massively-collaborative-mathematics-possible/" rel="nofollow">http://gowers.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/is-massively-collaborative-mathematics-possible/</a></p>
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